Who told me that OGG was more widely supported in browsers than MP3? Why did I think that? MP3 is supported in all browsers except Opera Mini...
@Gargron MP3 is definitely the most widely supported (https://caniuse.com/#feat=mp3) and its patent just expired so it's just about as good as #libre. On the other hand, it vastly underperforms modern codecs (such as Opus) as far as quality-per-bit
@Gargron That’s true
@Gargron probably some misinfo floating around -- i don't think i've ever personally claimed that ogg is more widely supported (although i've definitely claimed that it is generally better in every way than mp3, which it is from a format perspective), but there was a bit of talk about iOS supporting opus in iOS 11 although upon closer inspection it's only in apps + webRTC, not <audio>. not a ridiculous mistake to make, i guess?
more of an "ugh apple" moment though. WAV/MP3/AAC only in 2019?
@Gargron , i think that is easy to see when most podcasts use MP3 format. The exception are FLOSS and a couple of music podcasts with OGG or OPUS format. Some major companies, like Google or Spotify, use too because the quality and it's a free format.
@Gargron there was a time when Firefox refused to support mp3, but that was years ago.
Now that MP3's patents have run out, the only thing Ogg has going for it is it's fun-to-say name.
"Ogg Vorbis" haha.
@apLundell @gargron Ogg's still a bit more efficient space-wise and better quality audio-wise. But most users won't notice.
That said, the main issue with mp3's were the patents, as you say. It's still a big problem for h.264 video, of which the patent holders are fairly litigious.
@apLundell @gargron and yes I should say ogg vorbis oops #oggisjustthecontainer #yeahiknow